tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13378665.post115873810547611439..comments2024-03-01T16:32:41.076+08:00Comments on Sun Bin: "Nightmare on Beijing Street"Sun Binhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08093210384069958083noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13378665.post-1158852438472184622006-09-22T01:27:00.000+10:002006-09-22T01:27:00.000+10:00I guess you have probably pointed at the crux of t...I guess you have probably pointed at the crux of the issue. DPP (or you as well?) has a vague objective, but never has formed any coherent plan. So it is only going to jeopardize peace and security, in an otherwise relatively secure/safe environment.<BR/><BR/>I might have over-interpreted you. But how to enhance 'security' if you only have some vague to define (perhaps non-military) relationship, and provoking the mainland at the same time? (I am not saying what CCP does is right. But that is the reality faced by Taiwan)<BR/><BR/>P.S. <BR/>0) English is your first language, not mine. Not if any one has problem with reading skill, it would be mine :) I forgot when I 'criticize' your reading skill, maybe I was trying to say you might have exercise "selective" reading, consciously or subconsciously?<BR/>1) I think relationship should be built, as much as it could. But it would have been a lot easily if there is no diplomatic war with the mainland gov't.<BR/>2) I think quite some people in DPP also advocate the retreating policy like you did (perhaps that is even the mainstream?). South Sea (and even Penghu, Jinmen, Matsu) I can understand, geographically. Why diaoyu/senkaku? If anyone has a claim to these 2 rocks, it is Taiwan (geographical proximity, geological/continental shelf, etc). PRC's claim is also via Taiwn.Sun Binhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08093210384069958083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13378665.post-1158844379336668962006-09-21T23:12:00.000+10:002006-09-21T23:12:00.000+10:00Sun, I said "build relations with" not "ally with....Sun, I said "build relations with" not "ally with." I have no "plan" to ally with Mongolia, India, etc. That exists only in your mind. And to think the last time you wrote me, you criticized my reading skills!<BR/><BR/>My view does not represent the DPP view, but only my own. For example, I think Taiwan ought to give up all its claims to the islands in the south seas and senkakus. Which official DPP publication or policy paper, or official speech, advocates that position?<BR/><BR/>MichaelMichael Turtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13378665.post-1158777237193084222006-09-21T04:33:00.000+10:002006-09-21T04:33:00.000+10:00"Also, I am pro-democracy, not pro-DPP.Michael"OMF..."Also, I am pro-democracy, not pro-DPP.<BR/><BR/>Michael"<BR/><BR/>OMFG, I can't believe this coming from his mouth. ROFLMFAO!!! Sun, please save that for future reference. =)<BR/>Native TaiwaneseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13378665.post-1158769460109342292006-09-21T02:24:00.000+10:002006-09-21T02:24:00.000+10:00You view (and Wu's) represents the DPP party line....You view (and Wu's) represents the DPP party line. Even if I were a DPP supporter, I would think that they, like any other political party in any other part of the world, cannot be right 100% of the times. There are times that political objective will overwhelm logic and rational choice.<BR/><BR/>You didn't say 10-12 links. I counted them :) Let's me try to list a few here<BR/>1. alliance be built, and it is military<BR/>2. US military will come to help<BR/>3. Japan in the alliance<BR/>4. Japan is willing to come to help<BR/>5. Japan's constitution has been changed<BR/>6. India will join the alliance<BR/>7. Mongolia will<BR/>8-12+: you can count the number of countries in your plan, and multiply it by<BR/>a) diplomatic relationship<BR/>b) alliance<BR/>c) military commitment<BR/>13: Taiwan has the resources needed<BR/>14: People in Taiwan has the will to sacrifice peace and economic propserity for your cause.Sun Binhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08093210384069958083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13378665.post-1158752032581170042006-09-20T21:33:00.000+10:002006-09-20T21:33:00.000+10:00Where is the DPP spin in this?Historical appears t...Where is the DPP spin in this?<BR/><BR/><I>Historical appears to indicate that for a small power facing a large, hungry power, the correct solution is alliance with another power that is willing to protect it for reasons of its own. The proper strategy for Taiwan is to anchor itself in an alliance system founded on one side by Japan and on the other by the US, as well as to build relations with Korea, India, Mongolia, Russia, and Vietnam, and countries like Malaysia, Indonesia, and the Philippines in whose waters China has been making unfounded territorial claims. The real tragedy of Taiwanese diplomacy isn't the ups-and-downs of the relationship with the US, but the numbing stupidity of pissing off needed neighbors like the Philippines by claiming islands in the South Seas, which also commits it to the strategic nightmare of defending them, or the political nightmare of giving them up once claimed.</I><BR/><BR/>Nowhere did I say anything about 10-12 links.....<BR/><BR/>Also, I am pro-democracy, not pro-DPP. <BR/><BR/>MichaelMichael Turtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.com