tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13378665.post7541786208822427683..comments2024-03-01T16:32:41.076+08:00Comments on Sun Bin: 萬惡的GFWSun Binhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08093210384069958083noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13378665.post-49212134517476263412008-03-03T00:06:00.000+09:002008-03-03T00:06:00.000+09:00挖隧道肯定是能解決一部分人的需要,應該繼續努力推動。只是不知道能通過什么辦法和GFW管理部門講道理,...挖隧道肯定是能解決一部分人的需要,應該繼續努力推動。<BR/><BR/>只是不知道能通過什么辦法和GFW管理部門講道理,進而說服他們呢?他們甚至不承認有GFW管理部門的存在呀!<BR/><BR/>在中國大陸,我們不可能通過報紙、電視、廣播等任何形式來和他們溝通。哪只有寫信一種方式了,可信要寄給誰呢?一次不行,寄多少次才行呢?真的不知道。<BR/><BR/>網絡封鎖了這么多年,封鎖能力一年比一年提高,中共有可能突然有一天良心發現而主動把墻拆了嗎?我不相信。馬尚風https://www.blogger.com/profile/09306050982906460898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13378665.post-45391714044014363172008-03-02T13:00:00.000+09:002008-03-02T13:00:00.000+09:00我的意见啊。我不认为谴责或压力有任何效果,不过你们有你们的目的和方法。只是我们的目标可能不一样。我个...我的意见啊。<BR/><BR/>我不认为谴责或压力有任何效果,不过你们有你们的目的和方法。只是我们的目标可能不一样。<BR/><BR/>我个人认为这网管是极其愚蠢的方式--即使从“最大公约数”的角度来看。所以,我倾向以理来说服他们,同时也协助更多人挖隧道。Sun Binhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08093210384069958083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13378665.post-44810490553127359812008-02-29T19:34:00.000+09:002008-02-29T19:34:00.000+09:00Sorry.下面這句話的出處是:http://blog.chenchangming.com/2008...Sorry.<BR/><BR/>下面這句話的出處是:http://blog.chenchangming.com/2008/02/blog-post_18.html<BR/><BR/>請看一個已經貼上「中國封」的博客,其中寫到”但是,在我与别人的交流中,更多的人不知道GFW为何物“ ,”虽然blogspot被封跟我没有任何关系,但是我坚决不动地方,而且还要郑重宣布This website is Blocked in China.”馬尚風https://www.blogger.com/profile/09306050982906460898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13378665.post-9362896794880400722008-02-29T19:28:00.000+09:002008-02-29T19:28:00.000+09:00Hi Mr Sun,First all I want to say sorry because I ...Hi Mr Sun,<BR/><BR/>First all I want to say sorry because I confusing you.I cann't let you understand the different between ChinaBlockage label and establishing more proxy server.<BR/><BR/>My English isn't that good to express my thought. I want to use Chinese instead. I can write again in English if you can not understand Chinese very well.<BR/><BR/>我想你寫這篇博客文章的目的無非是為了向人們說明一個事實,GFW不僅存在而且還很可惡。其實除了你的這篇文章,已經有千千萬萬的文章在做著類似的努力。可結果是世界上大多數善良的人們還是不知道GFW的存在,更不知道GFW對中國的封鎖程度有多嚴重。你也許不相信我說的,可能是由于自己早就知道GFW 了,而且你的許多朋友也早已經了解了GFW。可這并不能說明其他人也都已經知道了。請看一個已經貼上「中國封」的博客,其中寫到”但是,在我与别人的交流中,更多的人不知道GFW为何物“ ,”虽然blogspot被封跟我没有任何关系,但是我坚决不动地方,而且还要郑重宣布This website is Blocked in China.“<BR/><BR/>進一步說,你知道有多少被封鎖網站嗎?他們具體有是什么網站呢?這就是我在「中國封」網站中提到的為什么國務院新聞辦主任蔡武敢在美國華盛頓說“中國的中文互聯網是世界最自由的平臺”。因為如果有人問他為什么中國要封鎖「維基百科」,他完全可以說”我們只封鎖少數敵視中國的網站”。沒有人能指出這個少數到底有多”少“,也沒有人能說清楚他們到底怎么敵視中兩國了。等到「中國封」標志出現在成千上萬的網站時,他也許就不再敢這么說了。<BR/><BR/>沒錯,是應該像你說的,要花更多的錢設立更多的Proxy,可能還要花更多的錢不斷開發像Tor一類的破網軟件,以對抗功能不斷提升的GFW。其實,全世界有良心的人們正在不斷捐錢捐物甚至是花費一生的時間來對抗GFW的封鎖。可現實是,大多數的大陸老百姓還是像蒙上了眼睛、堵上了耳朵的盲人和聾子,就算能用破網軟件的人們也很難訪問像YouToue一類的視頻服務,因為GFW的過濾功能把網速搞得像蝸牛一樣慢。<BR/><BR/>長期以來,對抗GFW的努力一直在暗地里進行,就像做賊一樣。這樣下去GFW與Tor永遠是警察與小偷的關系。而事實上GFW才應該是小偷。<BR/><BR/><BR/>用破網軟件想是在練「穿墻術」,人過去了,墻還在。不會的還是沒辦法。「中國封」就像是在砸墻,一點一點地直到把墻砸倒,讓所有都通過。<BR/><BR/>「中國封」就是要在破網軟件的基礎上扭轉這種局面,盡量充分揭露GFW的嚴重程度,制造國際對GFW的輿論壓力,讓他成為過街老鼠,而不再是網民。說不定哪一天,壓力太大了,受不了了,中共不得不撤掉GFW。就像南非最后不得不在強大的國際輿論壓力下解除種族隔離制度一樣。<BR/><BR/>希望能就此問題與各位進一步交換意見。謝謝!馬尚風https://www.blogger.com/profile/09306050982906460898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13378665.post-10765641849295830732008-02-29T12:26:00.000+09:002008-02-29T12:26:00.000+09:00btw, i found some of your links very useful though...btw, i found some of your links very useful though, e.g. gollum wiki browser. you would do a great favour or us if you can compile a list of such sites.Sun Binhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08093210384069958083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13378665.post-22049779444674151592008-02-29T12:21:00.000+09:002008-02-29T12:21:00.000+09:00Sorry, I do not understand what you guys are doing...Sorry, I do not understand what you guys are doing.<BR/><BR/>How could circulating a label help circumventing the blocking?<BR/><BR/>Please spend your money on establishing more proxy server instead, if you really want to help.Sun Binhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08093210384069958083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13378665.post-46056575044656653592008-02-11T03:08:00.000+09:002008-02-11T03:08:00.000+09:00『中國封』,中國瘋,中國瘋了!你好,我們不但要譴責,也要聯合起來一起用行動推倒『防火長城』(GFW)...『中國封』,中國瘋,中國瘋了!<BR/>你好,我們不但要譴責,也要聯合起來一起用行動推倒『防火長城』(GFW)。『中國封』就是為了這個目標而誕生的,詳細理念見http://ChinaBlockage.blogspot.com馬尚風https://www.blogger.com/profile/09306050982906460898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13378665.post-73843631879084335512007-08-07T01:23:00.000+09:002007-08-07T01:23:00.000+09:00here is my may stats<A HREF="http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/1328/analyticsmayyf3.png" REL="nofollow">here is my may stats</A>Sun Binhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08093210384069958083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13378665.post-77267185247608881712007-08-07T01:21:00.000+09:002007-08-07T01:21:00.000+09:001) i did not count the 6/11 spike. spikes usually ...1) i did not count the 6/11 spike. spikes usually come up when there is a new post or new link from popular sites such as ESWN<BR/><BR/>2) i have made less posts, and got too busy to do research myself. but that started some 9 months ago. so if it were to trend down, it should have happened long ago.<BR/>that did not happen, because blogspot was unblocked.<BR/><BR/>3) for the several times that blogspot was blocked and unblocked again. visible effects were observed. i do not understand why you would think GFW had no effect at all.<BR/><BR/>4) i am travelling to China more and more these days. i may simply move to msn space in future.<BR/>but GFW will not win. it is the chinese people and Chinese economy that would suffer as a results of the GFW.Sun Binhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08093210384069958083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13378665.post-14533158006179558252007-08-04T01:26:00.000+09:002007-08-04T01:26:00.000+09:00SB, thank you for posting the total pageview, only...SB, thank you for posting the total pageview, only if you posted the numbers for May as well.<BR/><BR/>But here's what I observed:<BR/><BR/>- the 6/11 spike is an anomoly.<BR/>- with the spike removed, your site has been trending down gradually for quite a while.<BR/><BR/>I for one have been comming less and less, because of the lack of content to my interest, not the GFW.<BR/><BR/>Honestly, I don't see a GFW move that suddenly dropped your count by 25%. Perhaps your maintainence effort has something to do with it.bobby fletcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17988368193662201410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13378665.post-52471123244206766812007-08-02T08:28:00.000+09:002007-08-02T08:28:00.000+09:00yes, there are some trasnfer to proxy, i think.but...yes, there are some trasnfer to proxy, i think.<BR/><BR/>but total is 25% down. i will post some chart when i get to it.<BR/><BR/>---<BR/>a few interesting observation / hypothesis.<BR/><BR/>1) this showed that many people do not use proxy, either they do not bother or do not know how to do it<BR/>2) taking the average may not tell the full story, but my site visits have been quite consistent<BR/>3) the difference stands out when i got linked by ESWN, showing many of ESWN's readers are behind the GFW.<BR/>4) do you know what my most visited page is? a wiki referred link to my GDP scaled map.<BR/>but this was not affected as wiki is always outside the GFWSun Binhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08093210384069958083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13378665.post-14791233273028410022007-08-02T04:36:00.000+09:002007-08-02T04:36:00.000+09:00SB, after your posts in the Taishi impeachment, I ...SB, after your posts in the Taishi impeachment, I am a BFF (Blog Fan Forever).<BR/><BR/>But I have to call you on this. What is your over-all blog visit figure, it should have gone down too - but did it? Did traffic from proxy-rich regions gone up?<BR/><BR/>Those idiot self-appointed expat "China experts" I can't blame them, but you? Of all people you should know when China's swiss cheese firewall acts up, people start running Proxy Hunter.<BR/><BR/>So look at your other traffic figure to see if they've gone up, and thank GFW for it.bobby fletcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17988368193662201410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13378665.post-2729588286767377592007-07-31T12:11:00.000+09:002007-07-31T12:11:00.000+09:00My traffic from the mainland is about 3% of what i...My traffic from the mainland is about 3% of what it was two months ago.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com